No laughing at the back.

Sorry all. Been busy. But had to stop for that little beauty.


37 thoughts on “Ribs

  1. geoffboycottsgrandmother Apr 6, 2015 / 2:54 pm

    but Downton’s not a proper lawyer. He might have done a law degree 30 odd years ago but as he showed with his (mis)handling of the KP situation he’s not qualified.


  2. keyserchris Apr 6, 2015 / 3:46 pm

    Selvey truly doesn’t comprehend how much he uses the “I know what’s going on, but can’t tell you” canard, does he, nor how counter-intuitive it is as a journalist to plough that furrow?

    And to say lawyers are involved, assuming he is referring to the Pietersen saga, is mind-boggling considering it is 6 months since the confidentiality clause expired.

    One might be led to think he uses that as a cover for the fact he actually has no real information up his sleeve…

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    • Annie Weatherly-Barton Apr 6, 2015 / 10:31 pm

      I don’t believe these people have any self-awareness whatsoever. The arrogance in the way Selvey spoke to Elaine says everything anyone — who isn’t already aware — needs to know about these people. They write pieces with little or no evidence. Their “evidence” is no more or less than hearsay, gossip and innuendo.

      I would agree with you Keyserchris that what they write and say is just made up and built from their own pre-conceived ideas emerging from their biased views. Derek Pringle used to write diatribes which were not evidenced by primary or secondary sources.

      One of the biggest questions throughout the ages: Does my philosophical worldview explain my science or does my scientific worldview explain my philosophy. If one believes something is true then one sets out to prove that as a fact, one can take any innocuous statement and use it to prove something, in spite of the evidence. These people have convinced themselves of a “truth” even when there is evidence to the contrary. And sadly we are stuck with their constant drivel and “I know more than you know but I am not going to tell you what it is?” And that is what kids do in the school playground. Nothing more and nothing less.


  3. Rooto Apr 6, 2015 / 4:20 pm

    I assume he’s on about the ongoing Pringle versus Telegraph Group super-injunction.

    I’m not on Twitter, but has anyone called him out on “what exactly?”

    Deep breath, and a dive into seriousness. Selvey has one journalistic credit left on his ledger. His article about the end of Jan 14 told us Pietersen was probably going to be ditched. He used his contacts to bring us a big story, but couldn’t bring himself to say it straight. Couched in layers of waffle. Protecting sources. Since then, zilch.

    It’s ridiculous for two reasons. Who doesn’t know who his sources are? Saker, Downton, Flower and possibly Whittaker. Next, where’s the journalistic balance? Where’s the other side? Where’s the damn credibility?



    • keyserchris Apr 6, 2015 / 5:18 pm

      There’s a Pringle – Telegraph super-injunction? Intriguing…


      • Rooto Apr 6, 2015 / 6:23 pm

        Not as far as I know. Just my facetiousness, when considering the people involved. I can’t think what Selvey is referring to, really. It just *can’t* be the famous KP gagging clause, can it.


      • Vian Apr 6, 2015 / 7:17 pm

        Reporting the truth has never been prevented by lawyers. It’s as simple as that. Hiding behind that is childish in the extreme.


  4. paulewart Apr 6, 2015 / 4:52 pm

    Was looking back at some old articles and found this gem: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jan/06/alastair-cook-england-ashes-captain

    Why is it that following every disaster Mike calls for a cleaning of the stables? Those stables never include Cook or Flower. Funny that. And then, of course, there was the desperate rowing back from this piece of ill-advised advocacy: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/07/andy-flower-england-team-director-kevin-pietersen….http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/769145.html

    Mike’s a dissembler. No-one believes him anymore. He has zero credibility with a number of readers because he so clearly chooses a horse based on friendship and backs it to the hilt: in short he lacks the critical faculties a credible journalist requires, see for example this re-writing of his 2009 piece in which he claimed Pietersen had been ill-served by selectors and players: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/feb/03/kevin-pietersen-england-paul-downton-cricket

    I’ll end with this gem:

    He will not play for England again and to suggest otherwise is just delusional. How did it all come to this? That, Kevin, is a question you should ask yourself, not of others. Maybe one day you will realise.


    • dvyk Apr 6, 2015 / 7:38 pm

      The spin and manipulations just becomes clearer and clearer with hindsight, doesn’t it. Selvey is an utterly insincere writer who has no respect for his audience or for the truth.

      I love this from the first article (Jan 6 2014)

      “Cook, a dignified, honest and highly respected man”
      –Nope, nope and nope, and I doubt even Selvey would try and pull those claims today.

      “Cook has long since held a reputation of being a strong voice within the dressing room”
      –See above.

      Next article-

      “Actually the England top order played him [Johnson] quite well. They let the ball go well, they got out of the way well”
      –Um…. no comment.

      “next season – after World Cup in 2015, England have a Test tour in the Caribbean in April-May, which is during the IPL season. That is the series that precedes the next Ashes series. England would say [to KP], “Will you go and play IPL when we are building for the Ashes?””
      –You got your answer Selvey. Gonna admit you were wrong?

      “I am not suggesting that Andy Flower will preclude the idea of Kevin Pietersen being in any future side. All I was trying to say is that if he decides Kevin Pietersen is not the way to go, then he would do it. And if other people decided that he is the way to go, then that would make Andy Flower’s position difficult. I might have written it slightly clumsily.”
      –This is his last of about half a dozen attempts to deny that Flower gave a “him or me” ultimatum to the ECB, while explaining that Flower is threatening to resign if KP isn’t sacked.


  5. MM Apr 6, 2015 / 5:34 pm

    Selvesy, how come with all this knowledge you impart, we’re never actually any more informed? Bias and non-stories is what we get.


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  6. Rohan Apr 6, 2015 / 5:55 pm

    What is Selfey on about in that tweet. Can anyone think of any useful information he has given us, that we have chosen to disregard? Did he for example, tell us about the bullying by the bowlers? Did he for example, tell us about how badly England manage injuries? Did he for example, tell us how he had held the ECB to account, for the ashes whitewash and their subsequent scapegoating of one person for this utter humiliation? Did he for example, tell us that he knows what’s happening but he won’t tell us? Ab yes that’s it, we are not worthy, we are outside of cricket. He has lawyers and and all manner of complicated goings on, best not worth our little minds with that…….

    I wonder what he is like in person? A bag of laughs…..


    • paulewart Apr 6, 2015 / 6:04 pm

      He did moan about the batsmen a lot, as a member of the bowlers’ union, of course. All of which exposed his one major source, of course: his mate, David Saker.


  7. Benny Apr 6, 2015 / 6:10 pm

    Ah but Selvey didn’t claim to be giving us information. He said “we tell you a lot”. “A lot” could be anything – tripe, invented stories, stuff the ECB wants to mislead us with …….


  8. Vian Apr 6, 2015 / 6:15 pm

    It’s the endless defensiveness I like. The original tweet was defensive, this reply is defensive.

    He knows full well how both he and Pringle are perceived over the last 18 months. And he doesn’t like it. That Ali Martin is getting praise for doing the truly radical thing of reporting will wind him up no end.


  9. SimonH Apr 6, 2015 / 6:32 pm

    More from Planet Selvey:

    Missing the admirable Elaine’s point more comprehensively than England bowlers under his mate missed a good length.

    And another one about “he keeps the pot boiling not I”. How did that Dave Tickner tweet go the other day? Something about being sacked by a non-entity and not shutting up about it……


  10. escort Apr 6, 2015 / 6:45 pm

    Perhaps Flower has been silenced by a super- injunction.


  11. Mark Apr 6, 2015 / 7:04 pm

    Selvey doesn’t have any information worth imparting. He knows fuck all. Most of what he writes is just boosting of his mates. Flower/Saker/Cook.

    The rest is just his opinion. And you know what they say about them. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone’s got one, and most of them stink.

    Selvey and Huges and Newman and Brenkley are all part of a little press club. We can call it The Tufty club if you like. And like a lot of weird clubs there are special rules and ways you go about things.. KP doesn’t fit in with those ways , so he has to go.

    English cricket and the ECB Is like a sort of dipstick version of the masons. They probably have weird ceromonies where people roll up their trousers and swear oaths to ancient lunatics.


      • Mark Apr 6, 2015 / 7:57 pm

        Well of course!

        Allthough their opinions do seem to be almost exactly the same. Funny that!


  12. dvyk Apr 6, 2015 / 7:44 pm

    Dobell reports:
    “Alastair Cook has, in the past, argued that appointing a vice-captain might discourage other senior players from offering their views or taking responsibility”

    I didn’t know about that justification from Cook. So the reason JA and Broad and Bresnan were all ordering players about during the Ashes and setting their own and not even bothering to look at Cook, was all part of Cook’s game plan.

    But now that necks are on the chopping block, maybe a vice-captain needs to step up and take some responsibility.

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    • SimonH Apr 6, 2015 / 7:54 pm

      Bell has been appointed v/c I gather (think it was a tweet from Dobell where I saw it).


    • paulewart Apr 6, 2015 / 8:26 pm

      Spinning a sign of weakness as a visionary and inclusive strategy. Well I never.


    • hatmallet Apr 6, 2015 / 10:36 pm

      Bell has been official VC on a few occasions since Prior was dropped in the last Ashes. I was surprised to hear reports that Cook didn’t want a vice-captain.

      Whilst I don’t think England need to put “(VC)” next to Bell’s name on the team sheet, they should nevertheless choose someone for the position. The quote from Dobell’s article just sounds like someone avoiding making a decision because they are afraid it might be wrong or upset those not chosen. Weak decision making as opposed to anything more sinister (naming his successor!).


  13. Vian Apr 6, 2015 / 7:50 pm

    50 for Cook. Now that’s good news, no question about it. Time in the middle is never a bad thing. However, I will forecast that the earlier stuff talking about men against boys (literally in one case) as England skittled weak opposition will be replaced with “welcome return to form” and “answered his critics” type copy.


    • "IronBalls" McGinty Apr 6, 2015 / 9:48 pm

      You’ve nailed that one Vian. 95 n/o at stumps…I can feel the second coming…coming!! The St Kitts invitational Xl can be tricky and tough opposition doncha know!


      • Pontiac Apr 6, 2015 / 10:00 pm

        This St. Kitts Invitational XIII has only a few players (Liburd, Boatswain) who got into the Leeward Islands PCL team.

        The Leewards finished the PCL season at the bottom of the table – winning 2, losing 8.

        So take that as you will.


      • THA Apr 6, 2015 / 10:23 pm

        Some of those kiwi fruit were damn sharp.


  14. Mark Apr 6, 2015 / 7:54 pm

    Or a vice captain might be a potential replacement for him. Best not have one then.


  15. escort Apr 6, 2015 / 9:59 pm

    Cook 95 not out over night. Im guessing this 95 will be praised to the hills by his friendly journalists just like his last. Well played though.


  16. SimonH Apr 6, 2015 / 10:01 pm

    James daring to question Cook’s record has produced some unpleasantness over at TFT.


    • LordCanisLupus Apr 6, 2015 / 11:16 pm

      I think James went a little too far the other way, and I would put some counter-points. The irony is that one of the unpleasant ones is a contributor to that blog! I find the criticism of the man, rather than the pieces utterly tedious. When someone comes out with a blog that praises Cook to the hilt and defends him, and puts in the effort James has on TFT, then frankly, they can do one with their insults.

      I see that we don’t get much of that here. Frankly, you lot scare me, so what would a visitor make of it….


  17. hatmallet Apr 6, 2015 / 10:02 pm

    It had to be 95 didn’t it!

    Hopefully the press won’t go too nuts about this. I did see someone, can’t remember who, say that ECB Premier League sides would do a better job, so a level below 2nd XI cricket.

    And also, I think going overboard wouldn’t be helpful to Cook either. He should certainly be encouraged that he’s got 95 runs and counting, but I think the best thing for him is for as little to be written about his place as possible.


    • Vian Apr 6, 2015 / 10:21 pm

      Scyld Berry said it.


  18. hatmallet Apr 6, 2015 / 10:29 pm

    Berry in the Telegraph and Newman in the Mail both focusing on Trott rather than Cook. Which is good – as I said above, better for Cook to stay out of the headlines. Both complimentary about the captain, as you would be when he’s scored 95, but aren’t overstating the feat or the opponents so I’m actually reading sensible reporting!


    • Silk Apr 7, 2015 / 9:12 am

      This is the thing that irks me most about everything that has happened since the Ashes.

      ““He’s not, at the moment, a name that has come up for discussion. Whether he does in the future is up to people at the ECB to make that call and then we’ll pick a squad and a team accordingly.”

      So, Mr Selvey, we know that the ECB (rather than the selectors) have decided that the selectors can’t select KP. Are there any other players the ECB have decided shouldn’t be selected? Did you even ask the question? Hello? Hello?


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