ECB Stupidity-gate

I’ll get something up later. For now stick KP comments below.

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23 thoughts on “ECB Stupidity-gate

  1. northernlight71 May 11, 2015 / 10:36 pm

    Comments? What is there to say? As if the events of last Thursday weren’t bad enough, now I can’t even find solace in sport any more!

    Well, unless Norwich make it through the play-offs 😉

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  2. MM May 11, 2015 / 10:42 pm

    I’m going to bed. I hope it was all a dream.

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  3. Burly May 11, 2015 / 10:42 pm

    Assuming it’s not been misreported, it’s just bafflingly stupid.

    1) You don’t hamstring your new coach. Any coach worthy of being a Test head coach is going to want to be able to pick his best players.

    2) You don’t piss off a huge chunk of the cricketing public when you’ve just admitted you’re on thin ice with them

    3) You definitely don’t make a statement like this when the player in question has just produced an innings utterly beyond the vast majority of players available to England. Promote talent, not stifle it.

    4) You’re overseeing a team that is lurching from poor performance to bad result and back again. You can’t afford to be this picky.

    5) I can’t be arsed any more. Really. I’ve seen bad decisions made by the people in charge of English sporting institutions before. I’m a rugby fan, ffs. But this is just idiocy heaped on idiocy and it treats the sporting public like imbeciles.

    And the worst thing is the properly mental way that hacks like Simon Hughes have reacted to the day’s events.

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    • Arron Wright May 11, 2015 / 10:48 pm

      Have you seen Hughes’s “Jadeja” tweet? Got the response it bloody well deserved.

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      • Burly May 11, 2015 / 10:59 pm

        Jesus. The guy needs a slap. What a massive prick.

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      • Burly May 11, 2015 / 11:11 pm

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      • d'Arthez May 12, 2015 / 12:57 am

        Let’s see. Jadeja plays his domestic cricket for Saurasthra.

        In the first match in which Jadeja scored a triple, an opposition opener scored 209, of 501 balls in the second innings (Orissa, November 2011). The first innings did not even complete in that match, as Orissa were technically still batting in their first innings at 499/7, when play was called off. And before anyone suspects there was rain in play: 359 overs were bowled.

        Second match with a triple. Against Gujarat (November 2012). In the first innings Gujarat have two tons, by the #6 and #7. Saurasthra reply with a 282 by #3 and wicketkeeper Jogiyani (only to end with a run out), and 303* by Jadeja batting at 4. 346 overs were bowled in the match, and Saurasthra’s innings ended at 716/3.

        The last of his three triples, came in December 2012, against Railways. Saurasthra batted first. They batted for 192.5 overs, before declaring. Jadeja made 331. The next highest score in the innings was 100 by #8, Makvana – who contributed to an eyewatering stand of 292 for the 7th wicket. In response Railways got bowled out for 335 in 133 overs. The follow on was started, but since there was practically no time left in the game, at 27/0 from 17 overs the game was abandoned. 343 overs were bowled in that match.

        Those are Jadeja’s triple tons. And before someone brings up the lack of quality bowlers – you’d expect the same to apply to lack of quality batsmen then. Scorecards indicate anything but that.

        Now you don’t have to have much of a cricket brain, but if first innings barely complete in a four day, 360 overs match, something tells me that there is not much in the deck for the bowlers.

        Such scores (716/3) happen seldomly in England. I can find a 810/4 from Warwickshire against Durham in 1994, but somehow the star of the day does not strike me as “England qualified”. Besides John Morris also made a double ton in the first innings of that match.

        There is of course a 637/2d by South Africa at the Oval, but that was exceptional. And few people would argue that Graeme Smith, Hashim Amla and Jacques Kallis were decidedly average with the willow. Or should we label Swann, Anderson, Broad and Bresnan as substandard bowlers?

        Simon Hughes seems to imply that “analyst” is a code word for “lazy pseudo-intellectual who cannot even comprehend the basics of what he is supposedly an expert at”. The sad thing is, he gets paid to show off his ignorance, and I can think of many posters on blogs who’d do a better and professional job, than Hughes could even dream of doing.

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      • SimonH May 12, 2015 / 7:18 am

        Hughes knows all that about Jadeja of course. He’s not just pathetic point-scoring. He’s ‘The Analyst’.

        He knows that none of Jadeja’s innings came when the next highest score was 36, from teammates that include three Test players (one an all-time great) as well as four ODI-capped players.

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  4. d'Arthez May 11, 2015 / 10:44 pm

    The ECB, proudly making the English support the opposition.

    I cannot imagine the contempt civilized Englishmen (and -women) feel for the ECB, and the muppets running that show.

    This is beyond farce now. This is getting beyond the point were civilized arguments will amount to anything.

    Other than boycotting the sponsors, and making the grounds hell for Cook and the blazers, there is nothing else to do.

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  5. Tuffers86 May 11, 2015 / 10:46 pm

    What’s the bloody point? It was BS 18 months ago and this time around it is even worse.

    The ECB is rotten to the core and the new regime are liars. They are operating in the 19th C never mind the 20th.

    English cricket needs some sort of schism or a Packer induced revolution. It’s a shambles.

    I’m out.

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  6. Tuffers86 May 11, 2015 / 10:49 pm

    And yes, true fan or not, I want this side to be humiliated this summer. I will happily put a Graeme Swann entrance fee on it and make some cash off it.

    A shame as there is still two or three cricketers I like in this team.

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  7. The Nibbler May 11, 2015 / 10:54 pm

    Interesting to see comments on the TMS fb which are roughly 50-50 split between KP and ECB.
    For me the whole mess sums up why cricket doesn’t have the global reach of football. It’s a microcosm of British life where meritocracy is an illusion – the Blazers are in charge and don’t give a stuff about as plebs.

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  8. SimonH May 11, 2015 / 10:58 pm

    Some brilliant Tweets from Andrew Miller this evening.

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  9. Maggie May 11, 2015 / 11:04 pm

    I honestly…WTF! I mean seriously, he scores 326 and THAT’S the day you decide to tell him he can’t play?? That’s more than three times Alastair Cook’s best score in two years!!!

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  10. Craig May 11, 2015 / 11:12 pm

    An utter shambles (again!)

    Why couldn’t he have just been told that he’s available for selection, just like every other England-qualified player, and that if opportunity knocks the chance is there. Why the total block?

    Just using a bit of common: if you happen to lose Bell, Root to injury (always a possibility in sport) why wouldn’t you want the option to be able to pick the greatest run-scorer in your country’s history, who’s scoring a ton of runs, and has beaten said opposition more times than anyone else in the past 30 years!

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  11. Mark May 11, 2015 / 11:15 pm

    What is priceless is the last time they sacked him, he had just finished top of the batting averages of an Ashes tour. Now they have thrown him out again on the day he scored 300.

    This is the Mc model of doing business. Be it hamburgers or cricket teams. People of flair and talent but who don’t conform are not wanted. Everything is dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. Obedience to the machine Is much more important. Is it any wonder we don’t have many alternatives to Cook as captain? All original thought Is knocked out of the modern player.

    Put on your paper hats and chant the mantra “do you want fries with that?”

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    • sebsmar May 12, 2015 / 12:21 am

      (i just posted this on the last article)
      They’re all a bunch of hypocrites. Compared to some of the other big names of English cricket, KP has been a saint. There’s Gooch and his, let’s be honest, indirect/direct support of apartheid SA;
      Atherton cheating, ie, ‘only drying the ball’ antics;
      Strauss using vile language live on air;
      Nasser with his defiant 3 salute, which was a blantant ‘fuck you’ to the ECB & Selectors, etc. Imagine if KP did that? He would have been enemy No. 1.

      Textgate has been blown so out of proportion. I’d wager that there isn’t a team (across all sports) in the country in which at least one player hasn’t referred to the captain/manager as a bit of a knob. These guys are professionals. Everybody has had a boss who was a bit of a knob. Big deal.

      The same hypocrites seem to show a blind eye to the insidious parody twitter account, which was not only divisive, but also quite hurtful.

      Strauss is moron. One of the greatest players of this generation is being cast aside on the basis of a grudge. I can see this house of cards tumbling down. We’re pissed off. And there’s a lot of us. I hope that Strauss is hounded about KP at every press conference, press appearance, public event.

      I’ve traveled to see England touring. I was the guy in a group of friends that would round everybody up and drag them to a cricket match. I was a fully paid up member of English cricket. I’ve had enough. I’m astounded that it’s possible that I could ever want Australia to humiliate us on a cricket field. But the day has come. I won’t watch any of the cricket this year. I’ll only watch if I hear England and the weasel twins are getting pounded (I’ll probably watch quite a lot then).

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  12. Clivejw May 12, 2015 / 12:22 am

    As you’ve probably seen, the ECB are now indicating (I nearly said leaking, but oh no, they never do that) that Pietersen will not have the door slammed shut forever, at least not tomorrow. But as Lawrence Booth (for whom my respect has been growing for some time) says, in reality, he will never be picked again. Which at least makes sense as a more rational strategy from the ECB’s point of view. But were they really intending to tell him he would never play again, as Jonathan Agnew tweeted, followed by others? Did they then get scared after his 326 and the public reaction, and change tack, or did Aggers just get it wrong?

    One gets the impression that this is an organization that is in complete panic, lashing out blindly in the hope of striking the right direction. And that Andrew Strauss (who I really, really didn’t want to dislike) is just Paul Downton revisited, without the entertainment value.

    The MP for the other side of the city to the one I live in tweeted in reply to a constituent’s question about homelessness, which has escalated since austerity, “Don’t be a sore loser.” I can imagine the ECB giving the general public a similar brush-off, albeit not in so many words.

    Can’t wait to hear the Oval crowd’s reaction tomorrow.

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    • Arron Wright May 12, 2015 / 5:06 am

      Nick Hoult’s piece suggests it’s just semantics. As in, building for 2019, around young players, blah blah what will happen if you still haven’t won a Test by August Andrew, you pillock?

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  13. Zephirine May 12, 2015 / 12:37 am

    Ten questions I would like to put to Andrew Strauss at his press conference:

    1. What would you say to the suggestion that you’ve started your tenure exactly the same way Paul Downton started his, and he didn’t last very long?

    2. Why do you think supporters should pay in the region of £100 for a Test match ticket when they can’t be sure that the best players available will be picked for the England side?

    3. Your former colleague Nasser Hussain described Cook’s captaincy, after two years, as that of a ‘slow learner’. Do you agree?

    4. What would you say to the accusation that you’ve refused to let Kevin Pietersen back into the side out of personal spite?

    5. Do you genuinely think you’re in a position to make a difference to the results of the England side?

    6. Have you apologised to Peter Moores for the way his sacking was public knowledge before he knew about it? Do you think anything you said led to it becoming public knowledge?

    7. Will you continue to support Alastair Cook as captain regardless of his batting and captaincy performance? If so, why?

    8. Are you aware of any international-level coaches who are prepared to accept a job where they don’t have a free hand in picking the players and captain they want?

    9. What does Andy Flower do now? How often is he asked for advice on other areas of ECB activity that are outside his job description?

    10. Would you agree that describing a former colleague as a ‘c**t’ in a situation where there were microphones around was a serious lapse of judgment? Why do you feel that supporters should trust your judgment in future?

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    • alan May 12, 2015 / 4:53 am

      Spot on. Can’t imagine any of it happening of course.

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    • northernlight71 May 12, 2015 / 6:41 am

      And, as a coda just as he thinks you’ve finished :

      “Given your behaviour yesterday and today, don’t you think that KP’s opinion of you as allegedly expressed to the South Africans in messages most people have never seen was, in actual fact, simply the truth?”

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