World Cup 2015 – Game 35 – Sri Lanka v Scotland

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54 thoughts on “World Cup 2015 – Game 35 – Sri Lanka v Scotland

  1. metatone Mar 11, 2015 / 8:20 am

    So, there’s NZ vs Bangladesh coming up which theoretically has meaning (although I’m not expecting NZ to stumble.) Then there’s Pakistan vs Ireland.

    Have to say I feel that the scheduling of the tail end of the tournament seems designed to amplify complaints about minnows (like England!) clogging up the works. It certainly doesn’t help that UAE play twice in the last 7 games and twice in 3 days.


    • thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 8:28 am

      Totally agree, though Pakistan bowlers v Ireland bat could be interesting, then of course there’s the chance to see the start of the new ECB/CEW/WAITROSE PLC four year plan (version 1.0) v Afghanistan…


      • metatone Mar 11, 2015 / 8:42 am

        I only just got around to reading the latest Mike Selvey article and the ending is pretty grim.

        He lists out some young guns who could be the core of the batting for 2019 – and you can read it and feel hopeful. And then he says “however, the real problem is the bowling…” and that’s it.

        That’s pretty ugly, because as bad as our batting has been, our bowling has been worse.
        So to be told “the barrel is empty, the cupboard is bare” is pretty depressing.
        And, as Dobell says, an indictment of Loughborough and Saker.

        (Not sure why I’m putting this rant in reply to your comment TBF, it just worked out that way.)

        As for IRE vs PAK – as always it feels like the big question is: “Which Pakistan team will turn up?”
        If the bowlers are in the groove and the pitch isn’t a road, I have to say I think the European champions are in for a rough day.


      • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 8:59 am


        Be fair, he couldn’t very well write an article about individual bowlers without conceding that he got the Finn situation so hopelessly wrong, without at least trying to analyse David Saker’s role, or without admitting that his precious Jimmy has had a shocker.

        So instead he has a little pop at Jos Buttler for not finishing the job on Monday. Much easier.


      • metatone Mar 11, 2015 / 9:08 am


        Yes, I thought the pop at Buttler was rather out of order.
        I’ve said it before, but most of the press seem to have had a wildly erroneous assessment of both our bowling and other teams (e.g. no respect for the Bangla seamers, all sorts of nonsense about spinners used to excuse the omission of Tredwell, etc.)


      • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 9:18 am

        It’s a constant theme with him: his default “analysis” of defeat is the UAE 2012 redux. The lack of criticism for the bowlers during the 2013/14 Ashes – in spite of all those tail-end partnerships and an Australian 10-wicket average over *both* series of 450+ when batting first – drove me stark staring bonkers.


      • d'Arthez Mar 11, 2015 / 12:14 pm

        Given it is the ECB the plan never really comes out of alpha stages in the past 20-years. At least for the World Cup.


  2. thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 9:02 am

    I haven’t read the latest Selfry, nor do I intend to, however, any list of a prospective team for England in four years time is a wild guess – same as the football team. If we’re talking batting then it could include 4 of (in no particular order) Taylor, Vince, Root, Ballance, Moeen, Buttler – and an as yet undefined opening pair (this applies to Tests as well). The bowling is definitely harder to choose – will Stokes recover as an all-rounder? Will Finn ever return? Where are the spinners/really quicks/rely on metronomes etc.?


    • metatone Mar 11, 2015 / 9:10 am

      At TBF, I wasn’t looking for a prediction on the bowling – just some sort of hope.
      But it seems like that our vaunted setup isn’t producing that well at the moment.


      • thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 10:06 am

        A wicked word
        More often duped and doped
        By the illogical management, absurd

        Whether we have the players to do
        Much depends on the organisation
        Choosing an on-field captain is an issue
        So important in healing the fragmentation…


  3. SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 9:45 am

    I’m still the only one who thinks there’s something in this? (Look at Tom Collomosse and Lizy Ammon on Twitter as well). The Independent is the only daily to be covering it. Paul Hayward’s article in the DT has a dramatically different slant on a Pietersen return that suggests he’s been hearing things from someone.

    Elsewhere, Mike Walters and Dean Wilson are must-reads in the Mirror. The Journo Awards were last night (Matt Lawson won SJA while Iain Herbert was recognised and the Guardian won next to nothing).


    • thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 9:52 am

      There is definitely more than rumour and rattling the cage to this… btw – has anyone heard what happened to KP being on TMS commentary team for some matches, as was reported widely prior to tournament? (Got to be better than Lovejoy)


      • Timmy Mar 11, 2015 / 10:05 am

        He will be commentating from the quarter finals.


      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 10:05 am

        TheBogfather – KP still starts commentary on TMS at the QF stage from what I’ve been reading.

        George Dobell’s latest, while mainly focused elsewhere, does have this line tucked away:
        “Whitaker, who not long ago said Pietersen would “never” play for England again, will meet the player shortly to discuss that very possibility”.

        There is a great quote in there from Gillespie on the problem with English pitches. On the subject of Gillespie a number of outlets have headlines that Gillespie has ruled himself out of the England job – I haven’t seen one direct quote where he says that (he mentions some obstacles and his current schedule, that’s all).


  4. SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 10:11 am

    Meanwhile, there’s a match going on:


    • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 11:02 am

      Geoff Lemon has the whole exchange which is just comedy gold. Funniest thing I’ve read since Downton last opened his mouth. (Ramiz on Tasmania: “I wouldn’t call them simpleton, but….”).


  5. thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 10:19 am

    SIMONH – I heard an excerpt on TMS between innings, where from FiveLive last night (chat involving, I think, Gooch, Vaughan, Ash Giles and Mark Butcher) Gillespie was asked on phone whether he’d be interested – he said he’d like to become involved in ‘an’ International team in the future, but maybe not just yet… (I was half listening at about 6.30 this morning so may have it all wrong!)


  6. SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 10:30 am

    The players have had no representation on the ICC since 2013. Has any UK news outlet ever noticed this? Hardly worth mentioning is it?


    • thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 10:43 am

      As the ICC is a conglomerate of toothless Sirs and equivalents, who have to bow down to India, Australia and the current, but SKY’d rich ‘minnow’ ECB, what good would the players unions have by any representation or affiliation? They’d best be represented by SKY/STAR/FOX? – That’s where the true power of schedules/tours/tournaments/money exists…


  7. Phil Mar 11, 2015 / 10:32 am

    If anyone is still defending Ian Bell’s ODI record, what about this stat. In less than 15 games this calender year, Both Dilshan and Sangrakara (with 5 each) have scored more ODI centuries than Bell has in 160 matches.


  8. SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 10:41 am

    Back to today’s match – Josh Davey is currently the top wicket-taker in the WC with 14. And possibly even better –


    • thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 10:46 am

      I demand an immediate update to LCL’s leaderboard to reflect that a Jock rules the CWC wicket takers!


      • d'Arthez Mar 11, 2015 / 12:20 pm

        England against 4 Full Members managed 19 wickets in total. 9 against Australia, 2 against New Zealand, 1 against Sri Lanka and 7 against Bangladesh.

        Scotland have comfortably passed that tally today. They are on 28 (7 against New Zealand, 4 against Bangladesh, 9 against Sri Lanka and 8 against England) out of 40 and still have the Australians to play.

        What does that data say Mr. Moores?

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  9. Mark Mar 11, 2015 / 1:16 pm

    Selveys smug comments about Butker is an example of why we don’t produce Gayle’s, ABVs, Finch’s. We had a great player and we hounded him out. We don’t manage talent very well.

    As for KPs return the munchkins are going to furious. Agnew was trotting out the old “he hasn’t got a county, so he has made himself unselectable” clap trap.

    It’s a bit like saying Anne Bolyin only had her self to blame for her execution because she willingly walked to the scaffold.


    • thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 1:45 pm

      KP back to Hampshire, as an FU to ECB’s Test match ‘sharing’/charging/monopoly from Mr Bransgrove….you heard it here first!


      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 1:47 pm



      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 2:01 pm

        Thebogfather – is that a surmise or have you heard it somewhere? If the latter, are you able to say where?

        I’m a Hampshire fan and thought it makes sense except that we couldn’t afford it. But there are ways round that and although I’d thought Taunton more probable I’d heard he wanted a county with a Test ground.


      • thebogfather Mar 11, 2015 / 2:12 pm

        @SIMONH – digging for a bit more info, but it seems legit (and as a fellow Hampshire man, reality too) – let you all know when I know!


  10. SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 1:25 pm

    There’s plenty of follow-up to the John Mooney story from yesterday if anyone’s interested. Brendan Taylor (who’s been signed by Notts by the way) has apologised. The journalist and his newspaper haven’t. Peter Miller on Twitter as always is a good place to look.


    • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 1:27 pm

      I just posted someone’s rather laissez-faire response to the whole thing on the previous game thread. It’s taking a while to come through. Bet you’ve already seen it though.


      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 1:46 pm

        Yes, your post yesterday was what drew my attention to the story.

        Have you seen that the journalist is banned for life by the Zimbabwe Football Association because of match-fixing allegations? And he is an ICC-accredited journalist! You couldn’t make this stuff up…..

        Peter Miller has also just posted a new Geek&Friend podcast with Peter Borren.


      • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 1:56 pm

        Yes Simon, that’s all dreadful, but “why should anyone take any notice?”

        “Best ignored”


  11. SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 6:03 pm

    Downton nearly gets through 24 hours without looking like a complete idiot….

    “Paul Downton, managing director of England Cricket, must realise his job would be untenable if Peter Moores, whom he appointed as coach, is axed after the World Cup debacle.

    Downton naively rounded on a group of cricket reporters in Wellington during his stay at the tournament to ask them to lay off the beleaguered Moores and get behind him instead”.

    24 hours can be a long time in cricket. I can’t stand Charles Sale or the paper he works for but that is damning.


    • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 6:33 pm

      Simon, have you seen some of the Twitter discussion following this article? I’m thinking particularly that involving a fairly prominent freelance and a couple of bloggers…


      • metatone Mar 11, 2015 / 6:43 pm



      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 7:12 pm

        Said freelance having a fondness for the same side as Viv Richards and one of the bloggers having a fondness for cockwombles? The other blogger being…..


      • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 7:15 pm

        Actually the freelance is female and the bloggers are being rude.


      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 7:40 pm

        I think we both mean legsidelizzy but are looking at different conversations?


      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 7:57 pm

        Would one of the bloggers have been recently sited on TFT having a go at James?


      • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 7:58 pm

        “Sited”? FFS, “sighted” even.


      • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 8:00 pm

        Yes, you’re definitely on the right track now.


      • Arron Wright Mar 11, 2015 / 8:02 pm

        BTW I haven’t linked it because it’s a very long conversation and anything more than one tweet takes a while to come out of moderation.

        It’s not particularly edifying anyway.


      • Phil Mar 11, 2015 / 8:56 pm

        No surprise. That certain blogger has shown his stripes all year. He is more than a standard KP hater and ECB apologist, he is now shown to be an utter cockwomble. If someone repeatedly abused me on Twitter, I’d block them too. Let him get back to his Pieterson dartboard.


  12. LordCanisLupus Mar 11, 2015 / 9:28 pm

    Have these tweets been deleted because I can’t see anything….


    • SimonH Mar 11, 2015 / 9:52 pm

      I’m a bit of a novice on Twitter but this should be part of it:


      • LordCanisLupus Mar 11, 2015 / 10:06 pm

        I saw some of the blocked tweets. Lizzy ain’t a fan of mine, and as for Neil, well…. he got me cheesed off the other day and I just ignore his stuff. Never had an issue with Voice from the Stands. He’s passionate. So am I.


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